tony123 Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 yes i am also having the same problem with my emisoft antimalware same error message as you but i also know that when i rebooted it came on for a little while but then went off it did say my last update was last night at about 10pm gmt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony123 Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 also i can not tell you which version as it will not come on but it is pretty recent update as of last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony123 Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 as put in an other post same problem here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony123 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 getting this message A major problem has prevented the application from starting when i try to start up my anti malware program?trying to combine my post with the few others having this have also been told off for trying to combine my post with others having this problem. i can not find any info or help on this in the forums. so was wondering do i now try to get my refund for my remaining subscription and try another antimalware program or is this not allowed also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Lets get some debug logs from Emsisoft Anti-Malware. In order to do this, you will first need to run a batch file to enable debug logging. This batch file is contained in the ZIP archive at the this link (this ZIP archive also contains a batch file to disable debug logging). Please save that ZIP archive on your desktop, extract its contents, and then follow these instructions: Run the enable_debug_output batch file (if your computer has Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8 then please right-click on the batch file and select Run as administrator). You will see a black window pop up, and then disappear very quickly. After that happens, please restart your computer. Try opening Emsisoft Anti-Malware. Once you have tried to open Emsisoft Anti-Mawlare, hold down the Windows key on the keyboard (the one with the Windows logo on it, usually in between the Ctrl and Alt keys) and tap the R key to open the Run dialog. Type the following into the Run dialog, and then click OK: %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Emsisoft A window should open and you should see a Logs folder. Right-click on that Logs folder, go to Send to, and select Compressed (zipped) folder. Move the new ZIP archive you created with the logs folder in it to your desktop. Attach the ZIP archive containing the logs to a reply by using the More Reply Options button to the lower-right of where you type in your reply. Note: If you get an error message when trying to send the Logs folder to a Compressed (zipped) folder then you may need to try a utility such as 7-Zip or WinRar to compress the folder. Both 7-Zip and WinRar have options to create an archive and save it in another location (such as on your desktop), which should prevent the error message. Here are links to the download pages for 7-Zip and WinRar. After posting the debug logs, you can run the disable_debug_output batch file (be sure to run it as administrator as well) and restart your computer again to disable debug logging. so was wondering do i now try to get my refund for my remaining subscription and try another antimalware program or is this not allowed also? You can do that if you want, however please note that we are working on resolving this issue, and we do not intend on leaving you without the protection you paid for for very long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony123 Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 thanks GT500 got a bit heated there when i recieved a warning from a over zelous forum moderater last night right i have the log files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony123 Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 did you get the file? gt500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry822 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 I'm having the same problem on 1 out of 3 computers. On the computer with the problem I have removed Emsisoft in Programs and Features , deleted the directory in Program Files (86), then I ran Aces Registry Cleaner. I rebooted then ran the setup for Emsisoft 8.1.0.19 and still had the same problem. I then tried older Emsisoft versions such as 5 & 6. But I will list below what computers I have and the OS's and which one has the problem. Dell XPS with Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit running Emsisoft 8.1.0.19 with no problems. Dell Alienware M17X Laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with no SP's and running Emsisoft 8.1.0.19 with no problems Dell Inspiron 1090 Laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium with SP1 32bit and with Emsisoft I can't run any version due the updates that it performs as it's loading and it adds in the latest updates that then causes this application problem. From the initial finish point it works, but from then on it will not start and gets this problem that many are seeing. I have not been able to capture any logs. I have Norton 360, SpywareBlaster, and Emsisoft running on all 3 machines, except of course the one now since the last updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 We have determined that this issue is related to our Host Rules. On certain computers running Windows 7 (specifically slower computers such as netbooks, or ones that are older or having performance issues for other reasons) the Emsisoft Anti-Malware service does not start in time, and the Windows system that controls services terminates the service because it took too long to start. It is possible to replace the Host Rules with an older (and smaller) version to temporarily get Emsisoft Anti-Malware working again, however please note that once Emsisoft Anti-Malware updates its database it will download a new copy of the Host Rules, and if you restart your computer you will once again not be able to start Emsisoft Anti-Malware. If you want to try this workaround to the issue in order to get Emsisoft Anti-Malware working again, then you would either have to leave your computer on all the time (at least until we are able to release a fix for the issue), or you would need to disable automatic updates in order to prevent the Host Rules from being updated. If you would like to try the workaround, then I have attached an older version of the Host Rules (host_rules.zip) to this message. You can simply save it on the desktop of the computer that is having the issue, and follow the instructions below: Right-click on the host_rules file you saved on your desktop, and select to extract it. Find the Emsisoft Anti-Malware folder, which should be in one of the following locations: C:\Program Files\Emsisoft Anti-Malware C:\Program Files (x86)\Emsisoft Anti-Malware Copy the a2hosts.dat file that you extracted from the file on your desktop into the Emsisoft Anti-Malware folder (you can right-click on the file to copy, and then when looking at the contents of the Emsisoft Anti-Malware folder you can click on Organize and select Paste). Select to Copy and replace when it asks you about the existing file. When Windows asks you to provide administrator permission to copy the file, click on Continue to finish copying the file. Once the file has been copied, please try launching Emsisoft Anti-Malware from the icon on the desktop, and that will also start the protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony123 Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 right great that worked although i have a 1 year old acer notpad and running windows 8? what happenes now when it auto updates will this happen again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xemex Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Yes, after reboot the situation will repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony123 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 yep sure did hmmm phhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xemex Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 There is this workaround that seems to be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I also posted more detailed instructions about how to use the newer workaround here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Please note that a fix for this issue has been released in a beta update, and you can enable beta updates in Emsisoft Anti-Malware to download and install the update. Here's how to do that: Open Emsisoft Anti-Malware. Go to Configuration in the menu on the left. Go to the Update Settings tab. Enable the Use beta updates option. Run an update in Emsisoft Anti-Malware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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