Umbra 30 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 hi, as you know Online Armor and the latest Emsisoft Internet security v9 can't be installed when Virtual box is present (it will generates a BSOD) ; so there is the procedure to to have them both.If Virtual Box is not installed yet (and was never installed)1- Install OA/ EIS2- install VboxIf Virtual Box was installed before but removed 2- open "Regedit" (via Run)3- check this registry key : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VBoxNetFlt4- if it's still present, delete it5- reboot (not necessary, but better if done)6- install OA/EIS7- install VboxIf Virtual Box is already installed1- uninstall Vbox2- open "Regedit" (via Run)3- check this registry key : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VBoxNetFlt4- if it's still present, delete it5- reboot (not necessary, but better if done)6- install OA/EIS7- install Vboxhope this will help you note: i did this procedure since ages so it really works ^^ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tempus Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Thanks for sharing this nice workaround, will give it a go later this weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT500 853 Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 You can open a Command Prompt as administrator and use the command sc delete VBoxNetFlt to delete the Virtual Box network filter driver to make it easier. No need to directly edit the registry. Also, please note that if you have Virtual Box and Emsisoft Internet Security installed that there will more than likely be random BSoD issues. Depending on your circumstances, it might just be easier to use VMware Player (it does still come in a free version for personal use). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Umbra 30 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 You can open a Command Prompt as administrator and use the command sc delete VBoxNetFlt to delete the Virtual Box network filter driver to make it easier. No need to directly edit the registry. indeed it is simpler ! (i am used to navigate in the registry ^^) Also, please note that if you have Virtual Box and Emsisoft Internet Security installed that there will more than likely be random BSoD issues. i think it is mostly during the installation of OA/EIS drivers (if the reg key is present) that the BSOD occurs , i never got it when Vbox is installed after OA/EIS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tempus Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 You can open a Command Prompt as administrator and use the command sc delete VBoxNetFlt to delete the Virtual Box network filter driver to make it easier. No need to directly edit the registry. Also, please note that if you have Virtual Box and Emsisoft Internet Security installed that there will more than likely be random BSoD issues. Depending on your circumstances, it might just be easier to use VMware Player (it does still come in a free version for personal use). Thanks GT500. I do use Virtualbox for testing, because it has the possibility for creating a snapshot of your virtual machine. That is a useful feature that is missing Wm palyer free. Next time that VMWare is launching a campaign, then I might go for the full edition of workstation 10. We will see what time brings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Umbra 30 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Same reason here ^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT500 853 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 i think it is mostly during the installation of OA/EIS drivers (if the reg key is present) that the BSOD occurs , i never got it when Vbox is installed after OA/EIS Some people seem to experience the BSoD frequently (and randomly) when both are installed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Umbra 30 Posted May 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 @GT500 : it is surely true, since i am tester for Emsisoft , i never encountered BSODs when OA was installed before Vbox; im lucky i guess on my forum i always warn people using both OA and Vbox to follow my procedure and i dont remember they had issue then, most BSODs were when the reg keys was present before. but we all know that "No System are identical" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT500 853 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 but we all know that "No System are identical" Quite true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 So for clarification: Oracle's VirtualBox is now running on same machine Emsisoft OA or Emsisoft Internet security 9 is installed? Emsisoft install should be made before installation of VirtualBox as decribben above? This issue is the only one that keeps me away from Emsisoft... Thx... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabian Wosar 390 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The VirtualBox Bridged Networking driver is causing a blue screen as soon as other NDIS filter drivers are installed. What makes matters worse is that the VirtualBox uninstaller doesn't remove the VirtualBox Bridged Networking driver properly. The best way to run VirtualBox and Online Armor or Emsisoft Internet Security on the same computer is to install VirtualBox without Bridged Networking support. If VirtualBox is already installed or was installed in the past, you will have to uninstall it and remove the VirtualBox Bridged Networking driver manually using the instructions Arthur posted above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Thanks for further explanation. Which kind of connections uses "VirtualBox Bridged Networking driver" in VirtualBox? Is is possible to access local lan *without* NAT and without "VirtualBox Bridged Networking driver"? (VirtualBox and VB-host in same subnet, e.g. 192.168.1.x) Is is possible to access wan/internet with NAT and without "VirtualBox Bridged Networking driver"? Thanks once more, hoping, that EAM will meet my requirements... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabian Wosar 390 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 First of all: Emsisoft Anti-Malware will work perfectly fine alongside VirtualBox, no matter what you have installed. Only Online Armor and Emsisoft Internet Security have trouble with the VirtualBox driver. So if you only want to run Emsisoft Anti-Malware, just go ahead and install it. There won't be any problems. Other than that there is only one question you need to ask yourself: Does any of your VMs use the Bridged Adapter? You can check the Network settings of each VM to find out. If one of it does, you need the Bridged Networking driver. If all your VMs only use the NAT, Internal Network or Host-only Adapter, you don't need the Bridged Networking driver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Does any of your VMs use the Bridged Adapter? You can check the Network settings of each VM to find out. If one of it does, you need the Bridged Networking driver. If all your VMs only use the NAT, Internal Network or Host-only Adapter, you don't need the Bridged Networking driver. Bridged network: Yes one is using it: It is a virtualized terminalserver, access from RDP clients is tested by local network connection in same lan mask (e.g. 192.168.1.x) It meens: host and guest (=terminalserver in VB) are in same subnet 192.168.1.x. And guest (=terminalserver in VB) needs access to wan/internet for updating... Other mode instead of "Bridged networking" possible for this purpose, which doesn't interact with OA? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabian Wosar 390 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 If you want the VM to be part of the real local network, no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 If you want the VM to be part of the real local network, no. Another half a year has gone... Any news about this issue? Still no coexisting of VirtualBox ("VirtualBox Bridged Networking driver") and OnlineArmor? From v4.3.14 on VirtualBox has intoduced new software architecture with 'hardened' security layer, so perhaps there is a new chance of getting it running!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabian Wosar 390 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 No news. Oracle continues to know about the problem but doesn't want to fix it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Next attempt... I do need VirtualBox for occupational purpose AND want to use Emsisoft Anti-Malware. So this is no problem. But Online Armor isn't working with VirtualBox. Which alternative software firewall are recommended to work in combination with EAM and includes content-/ web-filter with regexpr for urls like *server.tld ? Thx... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabian Wosar 390 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Which alternative software firewall are recommended to work in combination with EAM and includes content-/ web-filter with regexpr for urls like *server.tld ?Windows firewall will work just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Windows firewall will work just fine. I am sorry but windows firewall doesn't allow requested content-/ web-filter with regexpr for urls like *server.tld ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabian Wosar 390 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Sorry, I missed the second part of your sentence. In that case, I don't really have a recommendation for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I do not need a recommendation but a list of personal software firewalls knowns as fully compatible with EAM on Win7/win8.1. Regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter2150 45 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Google is probably going to be your friend. But Online Armor and PrivateFirewall might be your only options. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siketa 67 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Comodo Firewall? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjlbx 2 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I do not need a recommendation but a list of personal software firewalls knowns as fully compatible with EAM on Win7/win8.1. Regards. It is extremely unlikely you will experience compatibility issues between EAM and whatever firewall you choose. Just a suggestion ... these are worth a look: BiniSoft Windows Firewall Control (provides notifications for outbound connections using Windows firewall, $10 lifetime license with unlimited installations. W7/8). GlassWire (W7/8). Windows 7 Firewall with Advanced Security (W7, obviously). Just perform Google search for each. I use BiniSoft's WFC with EAM and it is more than enough. If I am not mistaken all Emsi staff use EAM + Windows firewall...so what does that say? However, if your primary goal is to filter web content using unlimited wildcards and regular expressions then, unfortunately, I know of no home firewall solutions for W7/8 with those capabilities. That does not mean there isn't one out there somewhere. I've only seen the ability to exclude TLDs using regexp in enterprise endpoint solutions such as FortiClient, WebSense and Kerio...among others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjlbx 2 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Comodo Firewall? Hello Siketa, I do not recall, but I would not be surprised considering the built-in configurability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siketa 67 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Tried Glasswire and really liked it.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 BiniSoft Windows Firewall Control (provides notifications for outbound connections using Windows firewall, $10 lifetime license with unlimited installations. W7/8). GlassWire (W7/8). Windows 7 Firewall with Advanced Security (W7, obviously). Thanks, did check these tools: I am sorry but all of them do not allow requested content-/ web-filter with regexpr for urls like *server.tld ... In my opinion it is possible to block ip addresses 123.123.123.1 only, but not by server names like server.tld or www.server.tld , isn't it? In case of load balancing server farms (for example google, microsoft, facebook ...) it is not possibleto enter all necessary ip addresses, too much. Any experience about this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabian Wosar 390 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Sorry, but a firewall is the wrong tool for that. What about SSL protected connections for example? A firewall won't be able to act on that traffic at all. What you want is better suited for a proxy (like Privoxy) or if you only want it within your browser for a browser plugin (like uMatrix). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fadi R 0 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 You can open a Command Prompt as administrator and use the command sc delete VBoxNetFlt to delete the Virtual Box network filter driver to make it easier. No need to directly edit the registry. I gave that a shot in Windows 10 but it seem that this service is running any more. It looks like the Registry method is the only one, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fadi R 0 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 hi, as you know Online Armor and the latest Emsisoft Internet security v9 can't be installed when Virtual box is present (it will generates a BSOD) ; so there is the procedure to to have them both. If Virtual Box is not installed yet (and was never installed) 1- Install OA/ EIS 2- install Vbox If Virtual Box was installed before but removed 2- open "Regedit" (via Run) 3- check this registry key : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VBoxNetFlt 4- if it's still present, delete it 5- reboot (not necessary, but better if done) 6- install OA/EIS 7- install Vbox If Virtual Box is already installed 1- uninstall Vbox 2- open "Regedit" (via Run) 3- check this registry key : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VBoxNetFlt 4- if it's still present, delete it 5- reboot (not necessary, but better if done) 6- install OA/EIS 7- install Vbox hope this will help you note: i did this procedure since ages so it really works ^^ Thanks for that Umbra!!! I've actually taken your method and simplified it a bit. EDIT: my VBox and OA were able to coaxist with no blue screens on my Windows 10 rig because I suspect OA is just not working well on 10. When I tried it on Windows 7 with VBox installed, it did indeed give me blue screens. If you go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\ Export: VBoxUSBMon, VBoxNetFlt, VBoxNetAdp and VBoxDrv as individual .reg files (make sure to export selected registry key and not the whole registry). Once you've made sure that you have a backup of the listed registry keys, you can delete those 4 vbox related keys and run the Online Armor Installation without uninstalling VBox. Don't reboot at the end of the installation. Once OA is installed, merge the backed up .reg files and both VB and OA should work on reboot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabian Wosar 390 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 As mentioned in your other thread already, Online Armor does not support Windows 10. As a result its driver won't load properly so naturally there won't be a blue screen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 hi, as you know Online Armor and the latest Emsisoft Internet security v9 can't be installed when Virtual box is present (it will generates a BSOD) ; so there is the procedure to to have them both. Any progress about that issue? Can Emsisoft Internet security coexist with VirtualBox 5.x, working and without bluescreens? Thx and regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aura 26 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 I think this procedure is outdated and doesn't apply anymore. I've reinstalled Emsisoft Internet Security many, many times when VirtualBox was already installed, and not once did I get a BSOD. So I would try to install EIS, and if you get a BSOD, then try to follow the instructions in this guide. However, I doubt these are necessary now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newsofter 0 Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Any statement for Win7 from Emsisoft Employee ? Thx... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT500 853 Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Any progress about that issue? No, and there more than likely never will be. This is not an issue that we can fix. It's a bug in a VirtualBox driver, and only their development team can fix it. If you'd like to see this get changed, then you will have to ask the VirtualBox team to fix the issues with their driver. Just be aware that their developers have a history of ignoring such requests. Here's an example. Can Emsisoft Internet security coexist with VirtualBox 5.x, working and without bluescreens? Yes, all you have to do is install VirtualBox without bridged networking support, or manually delete their network filter driver after installing VirtualBox and before installing a firewall such as Emsisoft Internet Security. Here's instructions on how to delete the driver manually on Windows 7: Click on the Start button. Go to All Programs. Go to Accessories. Right-click on Command Prompt and select Run as administrator. Type in (or copy and paste) the following command, and then press Enter to run it: sc delete VBoxNetFlt And here's instructions for Windows 8, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10: Right-click on the Start button to open the Power User Menu. Select Command Prompt (Admin) from the list. Type in (or copy and paste) the following command, and then press Enter to run it: sc delete VBoxNetFlt I recommend restarting your computer after doing this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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