stapp 160 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Win 10 1803 with EAM 8631 Turned on machine this morning but it wouldn't reach desktop.. just a grey screen with cursor. Did a hard reset and everything loaded okay after booting again, Debug logs and screenshot of event viewer entry (4.40.11 am) a2service_20180517044653(1624).zip Link to post Share on other sites
stapp 160 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Also see someone had a similar issue perhaps here https://support.emsisoft.com/topic/29533-a2serviceexe-application-error/ Link to post Share on other sites
Frank H 109 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 hi stapp, such crash issue require a crashdump of a2service or a full system dump. Unfortunately debuglogs are not of value in such cases. Maybe you have setup Windows to create a dump of the crashing process automatically ? Link to post Share on other sites
stapp 160 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Frank there was no desktop or I would have been able to create a dump. Don't know if Windows would have been able to create a dump if it hadn't completed boot? Would it? Link to post Share on other sites
Frank H 109 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 We can only confirm that when you setup windows to create crash dumps. 17 minutes ago, stapp said: Don't know if Windows would have been able to create a dump if it hadn't completed boot? Would it? Link to post Share on other sites
JeremyNicoll 82 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 > Don't know if Windows would have been able to create a dump if it hadn't completed boot? Would it? The support (for manually triggering a dump) gets configured into the kernel keyboard-driver code, so I should think there's a good chance that that would work. Also when MS designed the code I would expect that many of the dumps they would want to take would be for things happening during boot. Having said that, according to: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/forcing-a-system-crash-from-the-keyboard the process doesn't work if the machine happens to be doing something at a higher level of interrupt procesing than that that the dump process needs. Methods of dumping a process or via the GUI of requesting a dump are clearly not going to work if you can't get the GUI going. Link to post Share on other sites
stapp 160 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I have these enabled Jeremy, https://helpdesk.emsisoft.com/en-us//article/204-how-do-i-configure-automatic-crash-dumps-in-case-of-application-failures plus Windows dump files (for system failures) Link to post Share on other sites
JeremyNicoll 82 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I was just making the point, I suppose, that if and when the machine reaches that grey screen you might have to trigger the dump yourself, but I'd expect - generally - that that would work. It was more complicated for me to set this up because the standard keypresses to trigger a full dump (press RIGHT CTRL and then press SCROLL LOCK twice) can't be issued on my keyboard as it lacked the SCROLL LOCK key - and thus I had to reprogram the trigger key as well. Link to post Share on other sites
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