JeremyNicoll Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Windows 8.1, 64 bit The beta correctly identifies that I don't as yet have the browser security extension installed on my default browser (which is Firefox), but I have to go looking in Settings to see that. I still don't get a warning (when I start Firefox) saying that the extension is not installed there - should that still happen? I do (still) get the warning when I start Chrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siketa Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Under Surf Protection, where is "Hide built in list" checkbox? No hosts are shown in the list. Privacy option is gone now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Siketa said: Under Surf Protection, where is "Hide built in list" checkbox? We have removed that option. the list now only shows hosts/rules you added yourself or confirmed as safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 47 minutes ago, JeremyNicoll said: I do (still) get the warning when I start Chrome. do you have the extension installed in Chrome ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, JeremyNicoll said: I still don't get a warning (when I start Firefox) saying that the extension is not installed there - should that still happen? yes. as long as you do not have the extension installed and have the notification checkbox ticked, EAM will keep checking and should notify. do you have FF installed in a non-default program folder ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyNicoll Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I don't have the extension installed anywhere yet (been busy, thought I'd wait until I had time to get used to any foibles it may have, and also waiting to see if the warnings started working). Firefox is installed in: "C:\Program Files (x86)\~M-folder\Mozilla\". The "\~M-folder\" part is definitely of my doing. The " (x86)" part is probably because Firefox, although I'm running a 64 bit version, presumably updated in-place from a 32 bit version at some stage. I would have expected your code to be checking an appropriate registry key, maybe: HKCU\Software\Mozilla\Mozilla Firefox to find the installed version and then (since some values seem to be stored per base version as well per installed language) eg: HKCU\Software\Mozilla\Mozilla Firefox 64.0.2\extensions. Are you instead just looking for a specific filename in a standard folder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, JeremyNicoll said: Are you instead just looking for a specific filename in a standard folder? at this time yes, will be improved though. so this explains why EAm doesn't detect FF and doesn't show the notification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapp Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Emsi browser extension installed in Edge after EAM told me via slide that it was available. EDIT.. By the way you don't need a Microsoft Account to install this from the Store in case anyone is wondering) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G11 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 No problems with 9188 so far. Since surf protection no longer allows you to view built in list how would you edit if one of the entries is blocking a site you really want to visit? I have an exception to an entry on the hpHosts list I added (classmates.com). Is it still possible to edit built in list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapp Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Is there supposed to be a point to typing anything in the search box? It doesn't seem to do anything when you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyNicoll Posted January 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Here, typing some substring that's not part of my only defined rule removes it from the display below... which with only one such rule, is hardly useful. I think it's a backward step not to be able to see the contents of the builtin list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapp Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 True Jeremy. I typed GT500 in search box to see what would happen. I really struggled to get GT500.org added back so I could take the screenshot above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Quote We have removed that option. the list now only shows hosts/rules you added yourself or confirmed as safe. so whatever you type in that search box, it will only apply the filter on the list of hosts you added yourself, whitelisted/blacklisted. @stapp When you have 1 entry only, filtering makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapp Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Frank H said: so whatever you type in that search box, it will only apply the filter on the list of hosts you added yourself, whitelisted/blacklisted. @stapp When you have 1 entry only, filtering makes no sense. Of course it makes sense.. we are testers!! There was an empty search box so I thought I would have a look to see if GT500 was in there Then I removed GT500 as a test, and it is now impossible to add it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, stapp said: Then I removed GT500 as a test, and it is now impossible to add it back sorry, i do not get that. did you delete the host gt500 from the grid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapp Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Yes. You can see I keep trying to re-add it in screenshot. Also in Forensics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 so why is it impossible to add it back ? I assume you don't have a space character sitting in that SurfProt searchbox, right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapp Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 You figured that out because the word 'search' was not showing in the box !! OK now Frank GT500 is showing and blocked. (GT500 if you read this I only use it to test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyNicoll Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Why is it possible to type characters not valid in hostnames into this search box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyNicoll Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Also, I see that for now, Settings -> Export -> Host rules does export a person-readable file (despite its name of a2user.dat which might imply otherwise) but it only contains the user's own rules. Why, precisely, are you now hiding the internal rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, stapp said: You figured that out because the word 'search' was not showing in the box !! OK now Frank GT500 is showing and blocked. (GT500 if you read this I only use it to test) Nope , i recall you had the same issue a while ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, JeremyNicoll said: Why is it possible to type characters not valid in hostnames into this search box? The typed characters (should) filter on other columns too and not only on the Hostname column. That works perfectly well in Forensics, but doesn't in Surf Protection. We'll fix that some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, JeremyNicoll said: Also, I see that for now, Settings -> Export -> Host rules does export a person-readable file (despite its name of a2user.dat which might imply otherwise) but it only contains the user's own rules. Why, precisely, are you now hiding the internal rules? Exports are always person-readable files and only exported the user's own rules. We are hiding the build-in hosts for the same reason as we hide signatures. This is internal stuff and has no added value for users. Besides that, we're participating in knowledge exchange deals with third parties and these deals don't allow us to share the lists publicly. it's also a risk telling everyone where to find malware. There is potential for misuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeon Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 "We are hiding the build-in hosts for the same reason as we hide signatures. This is internal stuff and has no added value for users." No value for dummies, is this what you think your users are?😒 I remember when OS Armor was bought out by you, the owner said it would be the greatest piece of software, WRONG! Man, how can you wreck a piece of software. Sorry, but that's the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank H Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 @xeon Quote No value for dummies, is this what you think your users are? There is no relation between our reasons to hide the list, which were clearly explained, and your interpretation of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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